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		<title>By: iCalvinist</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>iCalvinist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever poured milk into cereal only to find that the cereal was stale, then found out that the milk you were using was not only past expiration but that it had chunks in floating in it?  

I just found out about this controversy (late to the ball) so I&#039;m gobbling up anything I can about it.   I came to your blog and generally agreed mostly with your 5 characteristics of Bible Monopoly.  I agreed with 1,2,4,&amp; 5 but was unsure about 3, I don&#039;t know about, something about the language you use makes it problematic.  I myself graduated from the more conservative west coast version of Westminster and have seen those characteristics exhibited by the current faculty towards other Reformed seminaries over recent controversies.  

But I&#039;ve been to &quot;Between Two Worlds&quot; and thought it was a decent blog.  Then I saw listed under your &quot;Prophetic Leaders&quot; Brian McLaren.  And thats when I saw the chunks floating in the bottle.  I consider myself an non-Reformed Historical which is Keller&#039;s coined phrase for the type of people you&#039;re talking about, but seeing Enns name beneath McLaren (whose works I have read) unfortunately gives me a bad taste in my mouth.  Thanks A LOT man(sarcasm), now I need some gospel Pepto!

P.S. - That article of Kellers can be found here
http://www.epcnewark.org/recread/TKeller_CultureofthePCA-rev.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever poured milk into cereal only to find that the cereal was stale, then found out that the milk you were using was not only past expiration but that it had chunks in floating in it?  </p>
<p>I just found out about this controversy (late to the ball) so I&#8217;m gobbling up anything I can about it.   I came to your blog and generally agreed mostly with your 5 characteristics of Bible Monopoly.  I agreed with 1,2,4,&amp; 5 but was unsure about 3, I don&#8217;t know about, something about the language you use makes it problematic.  I myself graduated from the more conservative west coast version of Westminster and have seen those characteristics exhibited by the current faculty towards other Reformed seminaries over recent controversies.  </p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve been to &#8220;Between Two Worlds&#8221; and thought it was a decent blog.  Then I saw listed under your &#8220;Prophetic Leaders&#8221; Brian McLaren.  And thats when I saw the chunks floating in the bottle.  I consider myself an non-Reformed Historical which is Keller&#8217;s coined phrase for the type of people you&#8217;re talking about, but seeing Enns name beneath McLaren (whose works I have read) unfortunately gives me a bad taste in my mouth.  Thanks A LOT man(sarcasm), now I need some gospel Pepto!</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; That article of Kellers can be found here<br />
<a href="http://www.epcnewark.org/recread/TKeller_CultureofthePCA-rev.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.epcnewark.org/recread/TKeller_CultureofthePCA-rev.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: setsnservice</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>setsnservice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cruz I didn&#039;t know you were blogging. Thanks for your thoughts here man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cruz I didn&#8217;t know you were blogging. Thanks for your thoughts here man.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I have some sympathies with your expressed concerns, I feel that maybe it would be helpful to all sides if we were a bit careful with our rhetoric.  After all, we all draw lines, and firmly believe that our lines are better than everyone else&#039;s, and that the world would be a better place if everyone drew lines the way we do.

We&#039;re all narrow this way.  Tim Keller suggests that true narrowness is not so much where we draw the lines as it is how we treat others who draw lines differently.  If we feel superior and sneer, perhaps that&#039;s where we fall into the trap of narrowness, exclusive based on our own accomplishment, not inclusive based on the finished work of Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have some sympathies with your expressed concerns, I feel that maybe it would be helpful to all sides if we were a bit careful with our rhetoric.  After all, we all draw lines, and firmly believe that our lines are better than everyone else&#8217;s, and that the world would be a better place if everyone drew lines the way we do.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all narrow this way.  Tim Keller suggests that true narrowness is not so much where we draw the lines as it is how we treat others who draw lines differently.  If we feel superior and sneer, perhaps that&#8217;s where we fall into the trap of narrowness, exclusive based on our own accomplishment, not inclusive based on the finished work of Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Peter Enns suspended from WTS - Page 3 - The PuritanBoard</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Peter Enns suspended from WTS - Page 3 - The PuritanBoard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thoughts on the issue   I shared my thought&#8217;s on Paul Helm&#8217;s review of Enns&#8217; book Bible Monopoly « Cdero&#8217;s Weblog  I also heard about the suspension in which my thoughts are applicable to. I found the suspension [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Theology for the Masses &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More on the Enns Controversy</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Theology for the Masses &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More on the Enns Controversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is an interesting (and instructive) review of Helm&#8217;s review by Cderoâ€™s Weblog entitled Bible Monopoly. Here are the central tenets of Bible Monopoly:  * An unwillingness to deal with the plural [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is an interesting (and instructive) review of Helm&#8217;s review by Cderoâ€™s Weblog entitled Bible Monopoly. Here are the central tenets of Bible Monopoly:  * An unwillingness to deal with the plural [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Enns, bloggers, and explosions &#171; Random Bloggings</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Enns, bloggers, and explosions &#171; Random Bloggings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Suspension, Westminster, Westminster Theological Seminary trackback  There has been a veritable explosion of epic proportions in the blogosphere over the issue of Peter Enns&#8217; suspension (I&#8217;m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Suspension, Westminster, Westminster Theological Seminary trackback  There has been a veritable explosion of epic proportions in the blogosphere over the issue of Peter Enns&#8217; suspension (I&#8217;m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jimgetz</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>jimgetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find humorous in the whole world of Bible Monopoly is the confluence of confessional schools and minimalists. Both want to level the playing field of biblical complexity to make the text easier to work with. By stifling the plurality of voices in the text, perhaps they hope to silence the plurality of interpretations around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find humorous in the whole world of Bible Monopoly is the confluence of confessional schools and minimalists. Both want to level the playing field of biblical complexity to make the text easier to work with. By stifling the plurality of voices in the text, perhaps they hope to silence the plurality of interpretations around it.</p>
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		<title>By: WayneinMaine</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>WayneinMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you to a point. 

First, where the bible is &quot;provisional&quot; we are not at liberty to fabricate our own holy writ. This is a common mistake across the social and political spectrum, from Fundamentalism to Post Modernism; we read between the lines what we cannot find in the text and end up creating God in our own image.

Second, I think we need to have the humility to say &quot;I don&#039;t know&quot; when confronted with biblical difficulties&quot; and to not become quickly atttached to an interpretation, as if all questions must be answered.


Finally, I think getting on to and following the rugged path of Jesus will occupy us sufficiently that we need not solve all of the Bible&#039;s mysteries. M&lt;ost of us do not want to go that deep, we want a religion that suits our lifestyle and political views. Following Jesus, sorting out how to do what He said to do, would make us have to change our lifestyle and beliefs at the root, and it will put us at odds with the left and the right, and the middle ground as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you to a point. </p>
<p>First, where the bible is &#8220;provisional&#8221; we are not at liberty to fabricate our own holy writ. This is a common mistake across the social and political spectrum, from Fundamentalism to Post Modernism; we read between the lines what we cannot find in the text and end up creating God in our own image.</p>
<p>Second, I think we need to have the humility to say &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; when confronted with biblical difficulties&#8221; and to not become quickly atttached to an interpretation, as if all questions must be answered.</p>
<p>Finally, I think getting on to and following the rugged path of Jesus will occupy us sufficiently that we need not solve all of the Bible&#8217;s mysteries. M&lt;ost of us do not want to go that deep, we want a religion that suits our lifestyle and political views. Following Jesus, sorting out how to do what He said to do, would make us have to change our lifestyle and beliefs at the root, and it will put us at odds with the left and the right, and the middle ground as well.</p>
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		<title>By: cdero</title>
		<link>http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/#comment-57</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, it will be appropriate to check out multiple reviews of Peter Enns&#039; book at http://www.digitalbrandon.com/?p=194</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, it will be appropriate to check out multiple reviews of Peter Enns&#8217; book at <a href="http://www.digitalbrandon.com/?p=194" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitalbrandon.com/?p=194</a></p>
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		<title>By: cdero</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A relativist argues that there are no absolutes. I believe in absolutes. I believe that there is such a thing as truth. I do believe that there are facts in this world, objective meaning, rights and wrongs. I believe that there is such a thing as evil and good which are all things that relativists deny. So you are mistaken my friend to think of me as a relativist. 

Since I am clearly not a relativist, then why not engage my post and interact with me so that perhaps you may understand the post. If Paul Helm can misunderstand Peter Enns, a reform theologian, then surely I can be misunderstood as well. You are invited to ask questions if you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A relativist argues that there are no absolutes. I believe in absolutes. I believe that there is such a thing as truth. I do believe that there are facts in this world, objective meaning, rights and wrongs. I believe that there is such a thing as evil and good which are all things that relativists deny. So you are mistaken my friend to think of me as a relativist. </p>
<p>Since I am clearly not a relativist, then why not engage my post and interact with me so that perhaps you may understand the post. If Paul Helm can misunderstand Peter Enns, a reform theologian, then surely I can be misunderstood as well. You are invited to ask questions if you like.</p>
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