Comments for Cdero's Weblog http://cdero.wordpress.com Seeking the Shalom of the City Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:06:49 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on When Christian Hip Hop was Poor and Lowly by eve http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/when-christian-hip-hop-was-poor-and-lowly/#comment-424 eve Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:06:49 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=16#comment-424 "I remember when Christian hip hop was not one’s bread and butter but a platform to advertise the mind and ways of Christ while grinding else where to make a living. Today it is a means of living and thus, people do Christian hip hop to live rather than live to do Christian hip hop." this may be one of the primary errors with what's going on today. i love CHH and always have, & i also understand that the vast majority of folks likely aren't even caught up in these terrible motives, but your statement is still relevant for some. being a celebrity & having a crew of overly-impressed cats & gaining fans & having no one in your life to peer in regularly and ask the hard questions ... all of this prevents the HUMILITY that causes us to truly walk closely with the Lord and kill sin on the daily. “I remember when Christian hip hop was not one’s bread and butter but a platform to advertise the mind and ways of Christ while grinding else where to make a living. Today it is a means of living and thus, people do Christian hip hop to live rather than live to do Christian hip hop.”

this may be one of the primary errors with what’s going on today. i love CHH and always have, & i also understand that the vast majority of folks likely aren’t even caught up in these terrible motives, but your statement is still relevant for some.

being a celebrity & having a crew of overly-impressed cats & gaining fans & having no one in your life to peer in regularly and ask the hard questions … all of this prevents the HUMILITY that causes us to truly walk closely with the Lord and kill sin on the daily.

]]> Comment on Reflections on Enock’s Friendship by Marcie Hope Linares http://cdero.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/reflections-on-enocks-friendship/#comment-422 Marcie Hope Linares Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:34:24 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=267#comment-422 And Enoch walked with God: and he [was] not; for God took him. Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he [was] not; for God took him.
Genesis 5:24

]]> Comment on Reflections on Enock’s Friendship by Marcie Hope Linares http://cdero.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/reflections-on-enocks-friendship/#comment-421 Marcie Hope Linares Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:24:47 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=267#comment-421 Cruz, thank you for sharing your heart. I never knew Enock,but, I send to you and all of his friends and loved ones, a very sincere word of condolence. May the Lord who loves you, as well as, Enock give you peace and comfort to see you through the sadness of your loss. Cruz, thank you for sharing your heart.
I never knew Enock,but, I send to you and all of
his friends and loved ones, a very sincere word
of condolence.
May the Lord who loves you, as well as, Enock
give you peace and comfort to see you through the sadness
of your loss.

]]> Comment on Reflections on Enock’s Friendship by Dj Sebz http://cdero.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/reflections-on-enocks-friendship/#comment-420 Dj Sebz Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:03:39 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=267#comment-420 His theology and love for God is what he reflected in the music i will miss him greatly, i played cross movement in my radio show and i know the Hip Hop community loved what the brothers have to say. The view of God in rap music is food for the soul. Jesus wants MC's like ENOCK to represent him.I pray to God to bless the brothers and sisters in Christ that are part of the movement.PEACE to all the Gospel Activist. His theology and love for God is what he reflected in the music i will miss him greatly, i played cross movement in my radio show and i know the Hip Hop community loved what the brothers have to say. The view of God in rap music is food for the soul. Jesus wants MC’s like ENOCK to represent him.I pray to God to bless the brothers and sisters in Christ that are part of the movement.PEACE to all the Gospel Activist.

]]> Comment on “__________” Theology by Victor Gimenez http://cdero.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/__________-theology/#comment-415 Victor Gimenez Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:18:27 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=242#comment-415 I understand Dr. Cones premise that Black Theology was a merging of Black power and the civil rights movement. This merger was a means to empower Black people and a response to white supremacy. The Christian faith for a long time has been viewed as a white mans religion. However Dr Cone does not go far enough. At some point black people need to embrace their ethnicity. Why because RACE is a limited view and persepctive of ones self. I did't say that we should ignore Race but there is a broader perspective. The problem is that many Black/African Americans have issues around true identity. Some will fight you up and down that they are not black or African. It just goes to show you that their are various ways black people see themselves. However to deny one pass is to deny ones idenity. At some point we need to know that we are more than (A RACE) of Black people we are African people who were brought here and robbed of our true idenity. This means we had a history prior to America and that we did not always have to address our oppressors in the Manner in which Cone speaks. So while I understand his premise it is limited. Black folk were once Kings and Queens. I know some will argue that White folk took their brand of supremacy and created what is known as colonization. To that point I will not argue but at some point black people have to see themsleves in the light of World History. Which begins to help see are ourselves as more than oppressed people. In some ways we will have to admit that the first man and woman roots can be traced back to Africa. And that means we played a large role in this world being jacked up in the first place but we also play a Larger role in its redemption. Our History is bearing this out from pre-civil right to post civil right Black people have playesd a large role in making America see its true sinful selfs. At the same time black people are helping in the redemtption of a nation from Martin Luther King to Obama. This does not mean all want redemption many want to be stuck in their ideoplogies. One of the most powerful thing that Cone shared is that white people want mercy and forgiveness but not justice and reparations. Until White people understand this they will never really understand true Biblical forgiveness. Congress for the first time recently acknowledged the horror of slavery (IT JUST TOOK THEM HOW MANY YEARS WOW) but know one in congress agreeded that their should be reparations. I really thougtht it was interesting how Cone views the scriptures. I do think that reparations will never happen. So their you go at some point you have to move on. I part ways with Dr.Cone is his view on absolute truth. He doesn't think any religion is a self contained system of truth not absolute. As far as Im concerned I don't serve a religion I serve Christ who said he is THE WAY AND THE TRUTH. Another point in which Dr. Cone and I may have disagreement is that when black people were getting killed it was not just religion that influenced and encouraged such behavior but their is was element of evil and SIN which Cone does not talk about. Lucifer may play a tiny little role in influencing people. So to that point I disagree with Cone the enemy is not just a man in a white hood burning a cross it is an evil ideology (SIN) that still continues today. Now to Dr. Cones defense he didn't say that all white people were evil and racist. And one does not have to look far to know that racism still does exist just ask Jimmy Carter. To that point we are fighting an ideolology. Does this mean that white folk are off the hook NO. As long as this ideology exist and white supremacy exist we all have to fight together to address this evil. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I MADE ANY SENSE THANKS MINISTER VICTOR I understand Dr. Cones premise that Black Theology was a merging of Black power and the civil rights movement. This merger was a means to empower Black people and a response to white supremacy. The Christian faith for a long time has been viewed as a white mans religion. However Dr Cone does not go far enough. At some point black people need to embrace their ethnicity. Why because RACE is a limited view and persepctive of ones self. I did’t say that we should ignore Race but there is a broader perspective. The problem is that many Black/African Americans have issues around true identity. Some will fight you up and down that they are not black or African. It just goes to show you that their are various ways black people see themselves. However to deny one pass is to deny ones idenity. At some point we need to know that we are more than (A RACE) of Black people we are African people who were brought here and robbed of our true idenity. This means we had a history prior to America and that we did not always have to address our oppressors in the Manner in which Cone speaks. So while I understand his premise it is limited. Black folk were once Kings and Queens. I know some will argue that White folk took their brand of supremacy and created what is known as colonization. To that point I will not argue but at some point black people have to see themsleves in the light of World History. Which begins to help see are ourselves as more than oppressed people. In some ways we will have to admit that the first man and woman roots can be traced back to Africa. And that means we played a large role in this world being jacked up in the first place but we also play a Larger role in its redemption. Our History is bearing this out from pre-civil right to post civil right Black people have playesd a large role in making America see its true sinful selfs. At the same time black people are helping in the redemtption of a nation from Martin Luther King to Obama. This does not mean all want redemption many want to be stuck in their ideoplogies. One of the most powerful thing that Cone shared is that white people want mercy and forgiveness but not justice and reparations. Until White people understand this they will never really understand true Biblical forgiveness. Congress for the first time recently acknowledged the horror of slavery (IT JUST TOOK THEM HOW MANY YEARS WOW) but know one in congress agreeded that their should be reparations. I really thougtht it was interesting how Cone views the scriptures. I do think that reparations will never happen. So their you go at some point you have to move on. I part ways with Dr.Cone is his view on absolute truth. He doesn’t think any religion is a self contained system of truth not absolute. As far as Im concerned I don’t serve a religion I serve Christ who said he is THE WAY AND THE TRUTH. Another point in which Dr. Cone and I may have disagreement is that when black people were getting killed it was not just religion that influenced and encouraged such behavior but their is was element of evil and SIN which Cone does not talk about. Lucifer may play a tiny little role in influencing people. So to that point I disagree with Cone the enemy is not just a man in a white hood burning a cross it is an evil ideology (SIN) that still continues today. Now to Dr. Cones defense he didn’t say that all white people were evil and racist. And one does not have to look far to know that racism still does exist just ask Jimmy Carter. To that point we are fighting an ideolology. Does this mean that white folk are off the hook NO. As long as this ideology exist and white supremacy exist we all have to fight together to address this evil. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I MADE ANY SENSE THANKS
MINISTER VICTOR

]]> Comment on “__________” Theology by V. Kerry Inman http://cdero.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/__________-theology/#comment-414 V. Kerry Inman Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:50:16 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=242#comment-414 I agree with his definition of white supremacy. I'm tired of old white men with gray hair running everything and I'm an old white man with gray hair! Theology, unfortunately, in its current form is inheritantly western and Eurocentric. Look at the very name, "theology," what language does that word come from? I think black religious thought is valuable and important, but can it be "theology" and be "black"? Doesn't black thought, to be true to itself, need a framework that is not based on Greek philosophy? The Bible itself is neither based on or organized by Greek philosophy. What are we really doing when we take the Bible and Hellenize it? I agree with his definition of white supremacy. I’m tired of old white men with gray hair running everything and I’m an old white man with gray hair!

Theology, unfortunately, in its current form is inheritantly western and Eurocentric. Look at the very name, “theology,” what language does that word come from?

I think black religious thought is valuable and important, but can it be “theology” and be “black”? Doesn’t black thought, to be true to itself, need a framework that is not based on Greek philosophy? The Bible itself is neither based on or organized by Greek philosophy. What are we really doing when we take the Bible and Hellenize it?

]]> Comment on Cretiquing Enns Through Manmade Theological Frameworks by sandrar http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/cretiquing-enns-through-manmade-theological-frameworks/#comment-412 sandrar Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:06:09 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=45#comment-412 Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post... nice! I love your blog. :) Cheers! Sandra. R. Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post… nice! I love your blog. :) Cheers! Sandra. R.

]]> Comment on 1993- a senior in high school experiencing pain and racism like never before by phatcatholic http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/1993-a-senior-in-high-school-experiencing-pain-and-racism-like-never-before/#comment-405 phatcatholic Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:07:51 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=166#comment-405 nice flow, bro! nice flow, bro!

]]> Comment on The Great Awakening: Calvinism, Race, Slavery, and Jonathan Edwards by Ben Mordecai http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-great-awakening-calvinism-race-slavery-and-jonathan-edwards/#comment-400 Ben Mordecai Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:45:03 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=17#comment-400 Calvinism is biblical, racism is not. If a Calvinist is racist, he being unfaithful to the scriptures. Calvinism is biblical, racism is not. If a Calvinist is racist, he being unfaithful to the scriptures.

]]> Comment on The Great Awakening: Calvinism, Race, Slavery, and Jonathan Edwards by Joanne http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/the-great-awakening-calvinism-race-slavery-and-jonathan-edwards/#comment-399 Joanne Mon, 25 May 2009 13:47:48 +0000 http://cdero.wordpress.com/?p=17#comment-399 I too ended up at this site while doing some research on Jonathan Edwards; I'm suprised that we would even try to make a comparison between an ideology, which was acceptable in those days (colonial era); not saying that it was right, because it wasn't; and Wright or Farrakhan who lives in a day where their toxic views are only meant to keep a wounded spirit festering. In my view, one is complete ignorance caused by ones selfishness and blindedness (Edwards) and the other is just utter hate (Wright and Farrakhan). I have been reading the autobiography of Fredrick Douglas, and can tell you that Fredrick Douglas would be ASHAMED of Wright and Farrakhan and their hate. Also, I would like to say this about Farrakhan being "honored" for his community work...so is the Hamas "honored" for there community work; but we can all agree that the Hamas is nothing short of a TERRORIST group! I too ended up at this site while doing some research on Jonathan Edwards; I’m suprised that we would even try to make a comparison between an ideology, which was acceptable in those days (colonial era); not saying that it was right, because it wasn’t; and Wright or Farrakhan who lives in a day where their toxic views are only meant to keep a wounded spirit festering. In my view, one is complete ignorance caused by ones selfishness and blindedness (Edwards) and the other is just utter hate (Wright and Farrakhan). I have been reading the autobiography of Fredrick Douglas, and can tell you that Fredrick Douglas would be ASHAMED of Wright and Farrakhan and their hate.

Also, I would like to say this about Farrakhan being “honored” for his community work…so is the Hamas “honored” for there community work; but we can all agree that the Hamas is nothing short of a TERRORIST group!

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