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		<title>RAS KAS Responds</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks like my critique was sent to Ras Kass and he actually took time to respond: Here is what was sent to me.
&#8220;i think the moral of the story is to not take things so literally.. The bible has been changed by human hands and many books of the bible have never been seen. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>It looks like my critique was sent to Ras Kass and he actually took time to respond: Here is what was sent to me.</p>
<p><span style="color:#800080;">&#8220;i think the moral of the story is to not take things so literally.. The bible has been changed by human hands and many books of the bible have never been seen. You can not take it as absolute word.. no matter what any other man has stood on a pulpit and told you how to believe.. God will naturally instill his word within you if that is his will.. you are born with him.. you should never depend on another human to let you know what is right and wrong.. it is in you. Thats all.. dont read to deep into the subject.. it is only a song.&#8221; </span></p>
<p>It is only a song? I don&#8217;t know how a song making serious assertions and claims is just a song. I agree that all people know what is right or wrong but knowing what is right does not mean you will do right. Furthermore, who has placed right and wrong in all people? And, if people know what is wrong why choose to do wrong? What I would like to ask Ras Kass is where does wrong and right come from in light of his worldview? In light of my beliefs, my knowledge of right and wrong comes from God and what ever is right or good is that which reflects the character of God and whatever is wrong is that which violates God&#8217;s nature.</p>
<p>In any case, it is unfortunate that my critique was not dealt with. Ras Kass, if you read this post, I want to let you know that I sense your pain and frustration. I don&#8217;t know what your experience has been with Christians throughout your life but know that God calls you to him inspite of the faults of his people. I am concerned about you because you are maintaining a view of Christianity that maybe in line with your experiences but not in line with the vision we see in the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. Your criticism of Christianity is more than a song. It reveals some issues you been having and thus even in today&#8217;s hip hop, an era that is more friendly to Christianity as oppose to the hip hop of the 90s, you are remaining faithful to your gripes. I don&#8217;t want to downplay your gripes because some may be warranted but regardless of how imperfect Jesus followers are, what about Jesus? Have you heard his voice and are you following Jesus? If you want to discuss Jesus please feel free to contact me at cdero31@gmail.com</p>
<p>see my critque of Ras Kass <a href="http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/the-miseducation-of-ras-kass/" target="_blank">here</a></p>
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		<title>The Miseducation of Ras Kass</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following video is explicit and is an inside look at what many Blacks around my neighborhood and in low income communities in general think about when it comes to Christianity.
My comments are below:







Allow me to address Ras&#8217; assertion that the cross and the symbol of a fish are craven images prohibited by God&#8217;s laws. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>The following video is explicit and is an inside look at what many Blacks around my neighborhood and in low income communities in general think about when it comes to Christianity.</p>
<p>My comments are below:</p>
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<div class="watch-comment-body">Allow me to address Ras&#8217; assertion that the cross and the symbol of a fish are craven images prohibited by God&#8217;s laws. While Ras has all the right to judge Christians guilty of idolatry, he can certainly do that and name a number of things that Christians are guilty of, nevertheless his assertion that the cross and the symbol of the fish as graven images mentioned in Ex 20 and in Duet 5 is misleading. First, lets look at scripture itself.</div>
<div class="watch-comment-body">Exodus 20:4-6</div>
<p>You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.</p>
<p>Leviticus 26:1-2</p>
<p>You shall make for yourselves no idols and erect no carved images or pillars, and you shall not place figured stones in your land, to worship at them; for I am the Lord your God. You shall keep my sabbaths and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Lord.</p>
<p>Leviticus 19:4<br />
Do not turn to idols or make cast images for yourselves: I am the Lord your God.</p>
<p>Other passages are Ex 20:22-26,Deut 4:15-24,11:16-17,27:15.</p>
<p>As you can see, these graven images were objects that were worshiped.</p>
<p>Secondly,  the law does not prohibit engravings, or other works of art in general. For instance, the Priest&#8217;s garment had pictures of pomegranates (Ex. 28:33-34) and the mercy seat had two images of angels made out of gold (Ex 25:18-22). All of these things had a religious function to it. The Law does not forbid religious use of ornaments or works of art but forbids worship of these things in place of God.</p>
<p>That being said, the symbol of a cross or a fish are not idols for Christians but symbols.</p>
<p>This brings me to my third point, the symbols of the cross and the fish direct worship to the true God. The cross symbolizes Jesus&#8217; sacrificial love for us while the symbol of the fish has its roots within the first three centuries of the Church. It symbolized what Jesus said in Mark 1:17, &#8220;And Jesus said to them, &#8220;Follow me and I will make you fish for people.&#8221; In other words, the disciples were used to extend Jesus&#8217; ministry.</p>
<p>Concerning the manuscripts, yes, there are no originals but we do have thousands of copies with minor variants that do not at all change the nature and message of the literature in the New Testament. The manuscripts are one of the biggest evidences of the validity of the New Testament.</p>
<p>Lastly, concerning the assertion that humans can be gods. They surely can since there are humans in this world that are worshiped. But Ras Kass perplexes me given that he condemns Christians for idolatry and then promotes idolatry by referring to himself as a god. Perhaps he is confused with the Bible&#8217;s various use of the Hebrew term Eloheem. He quotes, Psalm 82:6,&#8221;I say, &#8220;You are gods children of the Most High, all of you&#8230;&#8221; but what he does not reveal is that a) these &#8220;gods&#8221; were Judges over Israel and since they were judges they were refered to as gods since they were given the authority to judge and b) these &#8220;gods&#8221; were being diciplined for injustice acts and thus God reminded them who they really were, &#8220;mortal men (Ps 82:7). Ras forgot to quote the next verse.</p>
<p>As you see the video, please keep in mind that that kind of thinking is common among many Blacks in American Inner cities who have a vendetta against the Church and take up serious issues with us, some warranted while other unwarranted. Pray for Ras Kass that God would remove the bitterness from his heart and have him submit in willingness to the true God of the Church.</p>
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		<title>Bitter Sweet Choice: Peter Enns Resigns from WTS</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read about it here
Enns&#8217; choice is bitter tasting  because it reveals where WTS&#8217; heart is at (reformed dogma) and Christianity, the Bible and people, are more than theories and ideologies birthed out of the experiences of dead white men.
It is also bitter because it is a big loss to the student body at WTS. Evangelical [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Read about it <a href="http://www.wts.edu/stayinformed/view.html?id=187" target="_blank">here</a></p>
<p>Enns&#8217; choice is bitter tasting  because it reveals where WTS&#8217; heart is at (reformed dogma) and Christianity, the Bible and people, are more than theories and ideologies birthed out of the experiences of dead white men.</p>
<p>It is also bitter because it is a big loss to the student body at WTS. Evangelical institutions need people like Enns to bring understanding and reconciling power between conservative and liberal Bible readers.</p>
<p>It is also a sweet tasting choice because where Enns is at in his spiritual maturity, he needs a place where he can grow even further and bare more fruit and in a monologic and authoritarian institution like WTS, he would be smothered and walking on egg shells which can stun a person&#8217;s spiritual development.</p>
<p>I am pleased however to read the following words from the administration at WTS.</p>
<p>&#8220;The administration wishes to acknowledge the valued role Prof. Enns has played in the life of the institution, and that his teaching and <span style="text-decoration:underline;">writings fall within the purview of Evangelical thought</span>. The Seminary wishes Prof. Enns well in his future endeavors to serve the Lord.&#8221;</p>
<p>Prayers should be offered to our brother Enns as he and his family decides what is next.</p>
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		<title>God and &#8220;soon&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something is definitely wrong and right in the following statement made in a debate between fellow Christians Kerry and King Neb.
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&#8220;Neb mentioned earlier about how the mockers &#8216;understood&#8217; that there was a time limit of sorts on the text. I disagree - in fact, their MISunderstanding of the text is part and parcel of why [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Something is definitely wrong and right in the following statement made in a debate between fellow Christians Kerry and King Neb.</p>
<p>Kerry:</p>
<p>&#8220;Neb mentioned earlier about how the mockers &#8216;understood&#8217; that there was a time limit of sorts on the text. I disagree - in fact, their MISunderstanding of the text is part and parcel of why 2 Peter was written - God doesn&#8217;t *always* account time as we do. For a timeless being, &#8217;soon&#8217; doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean within the time frame we may want to frame it. &#8216;Soon&#8217; has been continuing for 2000 years thus far, but that&#8217;s not even a BLINK to God. A day is like a thousand years to God and a thousand years is like a day. When you&#8217;re timeless, &#8217;soon&#8217; happens when you&#8217;re ready for it to happen. And regardless of if &#8217;soon&#8217; is another 1000 years from now or 10,000 years from now, it still won&#8217;t compare against the backdrop of eternity.&#8221; (end quote)</p>
<p>How does the transcending nature of God changes the meaning of &#8220;soon&#8221; to &#8221; a very long time?&#8221; On the basis of Kerry&#8217;s reasoning &#8220;a very long time&#8221; then may also mean &#8221; in a short while.&#8221;  So when God gives you everlasting life, since God is timeless, what you really get &#8220;is a short life.&#8221; Give me a break.</p>
<p>Just making an observation on a debate that I am following.</p>
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		<title>What Set You Claiming? Reformed Gangstas!!</title>
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<p>This had be laughing!!!</p>
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		<title>Fallacious Redundancy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christian message forums need rules to keep things under control and maintain decency and order among people who may strongly disagree with one another. Out of all the rules of conduct there is usually one that is omitted that needs to be implemented fast&#8211;the rules of argument. In other words, if people are not going [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Christian message forums need rules to keep things under control and maintain decency and order among people who may strongly disagree with one another. Out of all the rules of conduct there is usually one that is omitted that needs to be implemented fast&#8211;the rules of argument. In other words, if people are not going to address an issue or problem that an individual brings up, they should not say anything at all. If you are going to attack the person rather than engage the issue that the person brings up, you should say nothing at all.</p>
<p>The following link <a href="http://holycultureradio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30425" target="_blank">here</a> features a fellow Christian bother (Kerry) demonstrating exactly what to not do in a Christian message forum or anywhere else.</p>
<p>Another fellow Christian brother (King Neb) adheres to full Preterism  and because of this has been likened to the mockers spoken of in 2 Peter 3 ( I am not kidding!). After a great post in defending full Preterism the accuser followed with the following remarks:</p>
<p><span style="color:#800080;">&#8220;If your belief puts you out of fellowship with the rest or the majority of the body of Christ visible, the problem may be you. Humility&#8221;</span></p>
<p>To the above, King Neb offers the following:</p>
<div id="post_message_367593"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Notice the response here. Kerry says I “may” be the problem. “May” expresses a little uncertainty; a possibility. There is a reason it is worded like this. Because Kerry’s <em>argumentum ad populum</em> is a fallacy.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">“It is logically fallacious because the mere fact that a belief is widely held is not necessarily a guarantee that the belief is correct; if the belief of any individual can be wrong, then the belief held by multiple persons can also be wrong.” – Wiki</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">This is Logic 101.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">The question I have asked myself over and over again is if Kerry is “possibly” correct. And answering that question would involve doing exactly what I have done above….asking and answering three basic questions:</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">1. What do I affirm about the coming of Christ?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">2. What did the mockers say about the coming of Christ?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">3. Do 1 and 2 match?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">And I have clearly demonstrated that 1 and 2 do not match. It is IMPOSSIBLE to make the scoffers of 2 Peter 3 preterists. Therefore, Kerry’s charge that I am the scoffer of 2 Peter 3 is flat out wrong. Case closed on that one.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Yet, notice how Kerry responds. Does this Kerry fella exercise the humility he so desperately thinks I need? Nope. He doesn’t address a single point I raised from the text, but merely repeats his fallacious argument. I&#8217;m wandering if he even read it all. And worse, by making such an appeal, implies that Scripture alone is not the final authority.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Apparently it doesn’t matter to Kerry what 2 Peter 3 actually says; his standard is what the “rest or the majority” think.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">It is sad how things get flipped around. Sad that people would go so far as to publicly announce that I and those like minded are those most vile scoffers of 2 Peter 3, yet refuses to budge on their judgment once shown from the very Scriptures they so flippantly quote how great of a stretch it is to conclude such a thing.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">And<em> I’m</em> the one who lacks humility. Sad indeed.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Perhaps Kerry is blind to his own &#8220;vitriolic attacks&#8230;, to the shame of the Body of Christ&#8221; because the comfort of the majority empowers him? Sure looks that way to me. We certainly don&#8217;t see him addressing the Scripture in any detail.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Kerry, <em>may</em>be <em>you </em>are the problem. I wander if you have ever stopped to consider that. Surely you can not rule out that <em>possibility</em>, because after all, that is all your response provides - possibilities. </span></span></div>
<p><span style="color:#800080;"><span style="color:#000000;">Kerry responds:</span> &#8220;And your beliefs still separate you from the rest of the body of Christ and regular sustained fellowship with them, submission to an ecclesiastical authority and so on. There&#8217;s a hint.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>King Neb&#8217;s response:</p>
<p>&#8220;The rest of the body? No it doesn&#8217;t. A large number? Perhaps. But the rest? Nope</p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Unless of course you now want to argue that only those who respond to Preterism the way you do should be considered the body.</span></span></p>
<p>Seriously dude, for someone who talks the way you do about truth to then base his argument on an <em>appeal to the majority</em> is astounding. A fallacy is a fallacy.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re still not addressing 2 Peter 3.&#8221;</p>
<p>King Neb goes on to say:</p>
<div id="post_message_367611"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">&#8220;I want to include a little reminder explaining the fallacy Kerry has used above. Kerry wants to talk about the &#8220;majority&#8221; of Christians and what they affirm. Funny, because Gordon Clark, who always upheld formal logic as a standard, complained that the rejection of logic had become very &#8220;popular&#8221; in the 20th century. So I guess if the majority of people abandon logic, then we should too, right?</p>
<p>And apparently for Kerry, rejecting logic is ok as long as it is done in the name of &#8220;orthodoxy&#8221;.<br />
<em><br />
Argumentum ad Populum</em></p>
<p></span></span><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">The Appeal to Popularity has the following form: </span></span></p>
<ol style="list-style-type:decimal;"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;"></p>
<li>Most people approve of X (have favorable emotions towards X).</li>
<li>Therefore X is true.</li>
<p></span></span></ol>
</div>
<div id="post_message_367611"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">The basic idea is that a claim is accepted as being true simply because most people are favorably inclined towards the claim. More formally, the fact that most people have favorable emotions associated with the claim is substituted in place of actual evidence for the claim. A person falls prey to this fallacy if he accepts a claim as being true simply because most other people approve of the claim.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">It is clearly fallacious to accept the approval of the majority as evidence for a claim. For example, suppose that a skilled speaker managed to get most people to absolutely love the claim that 1+1=3. It would still not be rational to accept this claim simply because most people approved of it. After all, mere approval is no substitute for a mathematical proof.<br />
</span></span><br />
<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Folks, what a course in logic does is help train you to recognize the &#8220;forms&#8221; that a person&#8217;s argument takes on; to then help determine whether or not the person&#8217;s argument is &#8220;formally&#8221; sound.<br />
</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">We would laugh a person to scorn if an atheist ever got on HCR and claimed that Christianity must be false because the vast number of people reject it.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">In fact, many of you have inherent within your own eschatology the idea that the true Church will become a very small remnant, as the world-wide apostasy grows worse and worse.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Many of you would be prepared to stand alone, if need be, then to deny Christ.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">What are we to make of an appeal to the majority then?<br />
</span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Yet, Kerry&#8217;s argument, in FORM, is no different. Some of you may buy into the argument, but you are doing so merely on emotion because you probably find yourself agreeing with Kerry&#8217;s eschatology.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size:small;">Logic is an <em>objective </em>guide that God has given us that has no place for emotional appeals. (end of quotes)</span></span></div>
<div>I want to note that I disagree with King Neb about the last sentence above. Logic can come from an emotional stance. I do believe that logic reflects the nature of God who is an emotional being.</div>
<p>In any case, King Neb (Godzilla), crushed Kerry(Bambi) in the above exchange. People who are committed to fallacious reasoning and monopolization of scripture will continue to get crushed and not admit it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[
A newspaper burns in the sand
And the headlines say &#8216;Man Destroys Man&#8217;
Extra extra, read all the bad news
On the war for peace that everybody would lose
The rise and fall, the last great empire
The sound of the whole world caught on fire
The ruthless struggle, the desperate gamble
The game that left the whole world in shambles
The cheats, [...]]]></description>
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<p>A newspaper burns in the sand<br />
And the headlines say &#8216;Man Destroys Man&#8217;<br />
Extra extra, read all the bad news<br />
On the war for peace that everybody would lose<br />
The rise and fall, the last great empire<br />
The sound of the whole world caught on fire<br />
The ruthless struggle, the desperate gamble<br />
The game that left the whole world in shambles<br />
The cheats, the lies, the alibies<br />
And the foolish attempts to conquer the sky<br />
Lost in space, and what is it worth?<br />
Huh, the President just forgot about Earth<br />
Spendin multi-billions and maybe even trillions<br />
The cost of weapons ran in the zillions<br />
There&#8217;s gold in the street and there&#8217;s diamond under feet<br />
And the children in Africa don&#8217;t even eat<br />
Flies on their faces, they&#8217;re livin like mice<br />
And their houses even make the ghetto look nice<br />
Huh, the water tastes funny, it&#8217;s forever too sunny<br />
And they work all month and don&#8217;t make no money<br />
A fight for power, a nuclear shower<br />
A people shout out in the darkest hour<br />
Sights unseen and voices unheard<br />
And finally the bomb gets the last word<br />
Christians killed Muslims and Germans killed Jews<br />
And everybody&#8217;s bodies are used and abused<br />
Huh, minds are poisoned and souls are polluted<br />
Superiority complex is deep rooted<br />
Leeches and lices, and people got prices<br />
Egomaniacs control the self-righteous<br />
Nothin is sacred and nothin is pure<br />
So the revelation of death is our cure<br />
Peoples in terror, the leaders made a error<br />
And now they can&#8217;t even look in the mirror<br />
Cause we gotta suffer while things get rougher<br />
And that&#8217;s the reason why we got to get tougher<br />
So learn from the past and work for the future<br />
And don&#8217;t be a slave to no computer<br />
Cause the children of Man inherit the land<br />
And the future of the world is in your hands<br />
So just throw your hands in the air<br />
And wave em like you just don&#8217;t care<br />
And if you believe that you&#8217;re the future<br />
Scream it out and say oh yeah (Oh yeah)<br />
Oh yeah (Oh yeah)<br />
Rrrrhaa!</p>
<p>Beat Street Breakdown, rrrrhaa!</p>
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&#8220;Just for the record, Dr. Gaffin has produced what is, in my opinion, the best critique of Inspiration and Incarnation. Gaffin confronts Enns&#8217; conclusions from a historic, Covenant Theology perspective that places the canon in the covenantal sphere. This is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Lets play a game, see if you can point out the criteria in the following statement,</p>
<p>&#8220;Just for the record, Dr. Gaffin has produced what is, in my opinion, the best critique of Inspiration and Incarnation. <span style="color:#ff6600;">Gaffin</span> confronts Enns&#8217; conclusions <span style="color:#ff6600;">from a historic, Covenant Theology perspective</span> that places the canon in the covenantal sphere. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">This is the fundamental flaw in Enns&#8217; work. He is not teaching historic Covenant Theology</span>. <span style="color:#0000ff;">I want to also point out that all the reviews listed above work from a distinctive theological perspective when critiquing I &amp; I.</span> For instance, <span style="color:#ff0000;">Carson</span> treats it from an <span style="color:#ff0000;">OT exegetical perspective</span>, <span style="color:#800080;">Helm</span> from a <span style="color:#800080;">philosophical perspective</span>, <span style="color:#008000;">Beale</span> from a <span style="color:#008000;">epistemological perspective</span>, <span style="color:#000080;">Lillback</span> from <span style="color:#000080;">a Systematic/Confessional perspective</span>, <span style="color:#800000;">Tipton</span> from a <span style="color:#800000;">historic Christology perspective</span>, and <span style="color:#003300;">Frame </span>from <span style="color:#333300;">a systematic/doctrine of Scripture perspective</span>.&#8221;</p>
<p>The statement goes on to say,</p>
<p>&#8220;The combination of these, sometimes overlapping, critiques makes for a fairly comprehensive blow at Enns&#8217; deviant view of inerrancy. However, if I could only choose one it would be Gaffin&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, Enns is not judged on the basis of unbiased research and interactions with Enns&#8217; research, but on the basis of favored theological boxes that are human in origin rather than based on God&#8217;s word. These men claim Reform Theology yet abandon Sola Scriptura only to replace it with theories and ideas that have more to do with human creativity than with divine revelation.</p>
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		<title>Just Do it! Do justice! Its just this! Its about doing!</title>
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This past weekend I found a new appreciation for Paul&#8217;s words in Galatians 5:16,
&#8220;But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.&#8221; (NASB).
How does one refrain  from doing evil? By thinking real hard and long? By
meditation and contemplation? By one&#8217;s doctrinal beliefs? Not at all!
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<p>This past weekend I found a new appreciation for Paul&#8217;s words in Galatians 5:16,</p>
<p>&#8220;But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.&#8221; (NASB).</p>
<p>How does one refrain  from doing evil? By thinking real hard and long? By</p>
<p>meditation and contemplation? By one&#8217;s doctrinal beliefs? Not at all!</p>
<p>Its by walking by the Spirit or to put it another way, by living obediently  to God&#8217;s calling of abundant wholeness. This past weekend I attended Pentecost 2008, Training for Change, a one and a half day conference on organizing teams to help make poverty a central issue in your Churches and in the White House. Part of the experience of being there was participating in groups where you was challenged to share relevant autobiographical information to people, in just 2 minutes, that served as a frame of reference as to why one is called to peace and justice. By the time the training was over, participants were already  mobilizing a team and  carrying out a plan of overcoming poverty.</p>
<p>I learned the value of simply doing something as oppose to processing it and trying to understand it before doing it.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, God gave us minds to process things but when it comes to the issue of poverty, and other social oppressions, it is as serious as somebody about to be hit by a car and the would be hero not thinking but simply acts to save the individual from harms way.</p>
<p>Many times in our culture of intellectualism, we attempt to understand things before an action is involved. In this sense, thinking is security, its about being in control. Not so bad right? Security and having a handle on things are good but at times it can be a hindrance especially when there is a matter of life and death.</p>
<p>I am one of those people who like to be in control of things by processing almost everything that is put in front of me to make decisions about. I am indecisive because my decisions about things have to be measured by how much I have ran it through the scanning devise&#8211;my less than certain brain. This way of deciding is helpful if you are deciding on what is  the best  deal on a home  or trying to figure out a math problem. But when it comes to the Christian call to peace and justice, its not a matter of the mind but a matter of the heart ( both should be one in the same but our culture has created a thick wedge between them).</p>
<p>Many of Jesus&#8217; liberating actions towards the poor and the mistreated started with having compassion for them ( Matthew 14:14, 15:32, 18:27,20:34; Mark 1:41, etc).</p>
<p>My prayer is that God&#8217;s faithful community would have compassion and be moved to action that will begin to liberate people from individual and systemic injustice. It has to start with compassion, not doctrine, not denomination, but with compassion. Lets &#8216;just&#8217; do it, lets do justice!</p>
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